
Knowing about the different types of scouts in basketball matters.
You might say, “I want to be a basketball scout.”
That’s good!
To get there though, you have to be more specific.
What kind of scout do you want to be?
There are different types of scouts and you need to know the difference in order to get going.
They come with radically different responsibilities and they require different skills.
The most important basketball scouting distinction you need to know about is the one between advance scouts and personnel scouts. There are other categories but they ultimately break down into these two buckets.
If you want to start scouting, you need to understand what both types of scouts do and what it takes to be successful in the role you choose.
So let’s talk about each of them.
We’ll begin with advance scouts.
Introducing advance scouts
The advance scout studies their team’s upcoming opponents.
The scout captures these teams’ offenses, defenses, tendencies, and personnel.
This job focuses largely on X’s and O’s.
The advance scout must know things about upcoming opponents such as:
- their offensive sets and plays
- how they defend
- baseline and sideline out of bounds plays
- what all their sets and plays are called (both verbal and gesture calls)
When scouting an opponent live, the advance scout must figure out all these aspects virtually simultaneously during the game.
It’s challenging work.
And an advance scout has to hurry.
You need to capture this information and communicate it quickly and effectively to your team’s coaching staff. After all, if the coaches don’t have the info soon enough to use it to prepare, it doesn’t do anyone much good.
It often means attending a game that doesn’t end until 10 PM. Then you return to your hotel room to spend the remainder of the night writing a 50 or 60 page report so the coaching staff can review it during their morning meeting. The coaches use this information to build their game plans while you head to the airport for your next flight to a new city.
Sound like a tough gig? It is!
Because of the strong tactical background the job requires, many advance scouts come from the coaching ranks. It’s hard for someone who’s never coached to have the expertise necessary to do the job well.
I’ve never coached and have done a limited amount of advance scouting. If you don’t have a coaching background either, the next type of scouting will be more up your alley.
Introducing personnel scouts
Here’s the type of scouting you’re probably more familiar with.
Personnel scouts watch players (personnel) and evaluate their skills.
This type of scout tries to figure out what kind of player someone is – to get a feel for that player’s strengths and weaknesses.
As a personnel scout, your goals when watching a game can vary.
You might look to get a sense of everyone on the court to see if anybody stands out. If you’re not familiar with the players, you probably start here.
Or perhaps you are in attendance to to evaluate a specific player.
In this situation you might choose to focus exclusively on that one player, tracking them wherever they goes on the court – and watching the player’s actions and body language off the court, too.
“Tunnel vision” is a common name for this scouting technique. It allows for the most comprehensive evaluation of a single player.
The personnel scout doesn’t watch the game with an X’s and O’s lens the same way an advance scout does. The focus is exclusively on the player(s), rather than split among strategies and coaches.
The different types of scouts on the personnel side
There’s more than one kind of personnel scout when it comes to the NBA.
- College scouts watch college players in the United States to determine how those players might perform in the NBA in the future.
- International scouts have similar goals but work on the international stage. They travel the world in search of talent. If you’ve always dreamed of attending a game with attendance 14 in a rural town in Estonia to watch a 16 year old, this job might be for you.
- Pro personnel scouts evaluate NBA and G-League players. Their work allows their team’s front office to stay up to date on who might be of interest to them going forward. For free agent signings and trades, reports from pro personnel scouts can prove invaluable.
Comparing the types of scouts
Though the roles of advance scouts and personnel scouts share similarities, they come with their own unique challenges.
Let’s go over the differences together.
The advance scout often has direct communication with their team’s coaching staff. They adds immediate value to the team on the court.
The personnel scout works and lives on more of an island. The value of their work takes time to fully reveal itself.
Working as a personnel scout presents political concerns that maybe don’t exist for an advance scout.
An advance scout delivers accurate, actionable information to their team’s coaching staff. This responsibility includes a specific goal on which a scout can be evaluated: Is the advance scout’s work helping the coaches and the team prepare for games?
The challenges unique to personnel scouting
Because the personnel scout exists more in isolation from the rest of the organization, there’s less potential for oversight and accountability.
There are a few key reasons at play.
- Advance scouting provides more concrete, immediate intel than personnel scouting. Either a team runs a lot of Horns sets or they don’t. If you get it wrong, you find out in a few days. But whether an undersized college guard prospect has a floater he can convert consistently in the NBA – that depends on a number of factors. Any conclusion you draw is an educated guess. It can take years to know if you got it right or wrong. You might never find out. Putting a player’s athleticism and potential in context is hard.
- Many teams divide scouting responsibilities, often geographically. This division of labor means that unlike an advance scout, whose work serves as a preview to what the coaching staff sees, a personnel scout often forgoes second opinions. Their bosses just have to take their word for it because they haven’t been on the road scouting the player themselves.
- Supervision can work the other way, too. Suppose a personnel scout likes a prospect. In this case, they know their general manager has not only scouted this player, but also holds a strong negative opinion about the prospect. The scout might feel hesitant to share their true feelings for fear of looking bad or offending their general manager.
How I relate to these types of scouts
I empathize more with the plight of the personnel scout because my experience lies in that area.
When I worked as a high school basketball scout, I had days where I watched parts of 20 or 30 games without seeing any prospect who might be of interest to a college coach I knew. I had to keep working and watching closely in case I saw a glimpse of something special. I had similar experiences with regional NBA scouting.
It is a grind. It’s hard to evaluate whether your work is on point. You have to be skeptical about what you’re watching.
When it comes to the lifestyle, regardless of your scouting role, you’d better be ready to become an expert traveler. You won’t be around the team much because you will be on the road all the time traveling on a budget. An airplane seat will frequently be your bed. “Day off” isn’t in your vocabulary during the season.
This lifestyle is not for everyone.
Which of these types of scouts is right for you?
If you’re thinking about getting involved in basketball scouting, ask yourself these questions:
- What background and strengths do I bring to the table? Do I come from a coaching background?
- Which area of the game am I most interested in? What do I feel drawn toward? Is it X’s and O’s?
- Which role fits my personality and the way I work best?
- What opportunities are available to me right now that could help me improve my skills related to scouting?
- Do I want to scout at all?
Whichever basketball scouting path you choose, hard work and a brutal lifestyle awaits. You’ll need good scouting habits to succeed.
If you don’t have passion for that facet of basketball, you won’t be able to succeed.
And now that you know the two types of scouts, you can start thinking about what might come next for you.
Which of the two types of scouts best fits your mindset?
That’s all for today.
How important is it for a scout to have knowledge of the Collective Bargaining Agreement to present another light into Scouting?
Good question, Lorenzo.
“For a scout” — I’d say not important. A scout’s value is in scouting.
For a person who wants to work in a front office, CBA knowledge is great. If you also have scouting ability and experience, then you bring extra value to the front office. There are valuable people in front offices who do both things well.
How can a home personnel scout receive immediate assignment to start breaking down video.
Synergy Sports uses loggers to break down video. You might start by looking for work with them.
For work with a team, it comes down to building relationships and trust to gain an opportunity.
I would be interested in receiving information on scouting. I don’t have any organized basketball experience, but I do love watching the game of basketball. From your article I feel that I would be more suitable for Personnel Scout, as it seems more of my speed. Any feedback on pursuing a career as a scout would be very much appreciated.
Thank You,
Joseph Mambu
I have been professionally scouting for 16 years for D1 programs. The information provided here is very on point and accurate. Good read. Instincts and experience, developed on these guidelines will allow one progress and growth in the right direction.
Alan Branch TX
Agbranch@texasboysbasketball.com
Thanks, Alan!